By Fuad Ali
The Irish are tying to take over Penang Medical College .
Please try not to allow this take over. Malaysian management must remain
in control the medical college for the rakyat to educate honest honest and good doctors.
Worse still the Irish National Universiti of Ireland which grants the degree MB ChB is going
to be dissolved in June 2011 because of financial reasons and other reasons not disclosed.
The Irish partners of the Penang Medical College twinning programe are now trying to apply
to various worldwide bodies so that they can manufacture a medical degree qualification which
they can market as an intenationally recognised medical degree.
The current degree awarded to graduating students of the PMC twinning programe is advertised
as internationally recognised but this is false. The degree MB ChB (National Universiti of Ireland)
is only recognised in Malaysia and Ieland( where the geat majority of PMC students cannot get jobs)
The degree is now no longer going to exist after the dissolution of the National Univesiti of Ireland
This disaster is very unfair for all the PMC graduates who studied very hard for their degree,paid a lot
of money and also to the Malaysian Government and people who supported the scholaship students.
Please investigate this fiasco where foreigners ae allowed to use Malaysian facilities to exploit Malaysians
and make excessive profits for themselves by exploiting the "Tabik Orang Putih Tuan" phenomenon
which some conning Malaysians are being accomplice to for their own personal gain to exploit their
fellow men.The Penang Hospital should be made use by The Malaysian Ministry of Health and the
Malaysian Ministry of Education to run a Medical Education facility to train doctors who will be caring
and compassionate, not doctors who want to get back the money they have lost in paying excessive fees
for their medical education.
Anyway 75%-80% of the teaching at the PMC college is done by Kementerian Kesihatan staff who should
concentrate on treating the sick.
JPA and MARA should really invetigate and really interview their students , get the truth and maybe
use the Penang Hospital to conduct their own Medical Universiti. What is the use of paying so moch
to foreigners for a degree which is only recognised in Malaysia and , now worse still is no longer going to exist
because the institution granting the degree is going to be dissolved.
The medical college is operational only because of the teaching hospital in Penang ie
Hospital Pulau Pinang . Without the Hospital there will be no medical college.It really cost
a lot of money to run a medical college entirely. The big silent partner in the college is Hospital
Pulau Pinang and Kementeian Kesihatan Malaysia
The Irish are very very aware of this. They are making a lot of profit from Malaysia. It is said
that PMC is nonprofit. but why are the Irish so willing to take control of the College.
The reason is that they getting a great lot of Money from the fees especially fees for the first 2-3years
course in Dublin
The preclinical course in Dublin costs 30,000 euros per year, per student
For 120 students it costs 120 X 30,000=3,600,000 euros, per batch of students, per year
At any one time there are year1
year2
year 3. (1st 6 months/half year)
So in total there are 2.5 batches of students costing in fees only 3,600,000euros X 2.5 == 9,000,000 euros
So its 9 million euros and converted into ringgit it is 9X5== 45 million ringgit. per year
The capital and /or expenditure required for the preclinical laboratories/ course is minimal
So one can see why the Irish are so eager to be involved in Penang Medical College
It gives them a big profit. for almost no expenditure
If there was no PMC the Irish cannot get this money as they do not have the clinical teaching hospitals
to provide practical clinical teaching and training.
They only want to grab grab grab, providing very poor facilities. There have really
no improvements at PMC, facilities poor, library poor, computer IT facilities poor. Irish want more
and more profit , fees keep increasing, more and more students but PMC staff not around ,
a lot of teaching left to junior hospital staff some even have no postgraduate degree The orang putih
get big fat salaies to come and enjoy their retirement in a warm climate. They connot communicate,
cannot talk to patients , do not know the local manners, and often misbehave especially parties.
The Degree given by National Universiti of Ireland also poor and useless,
Only recognised in Malaysia & Ireland .Many many PMC graduates try to apply to work in UK,
Australia,Singapore but PMC National Universiti of Ireland degree not laku.Graduates told by
General Medical Council in UK , that PMC graduates have to pass PLAB examination first.
Told by Australian Medical licensing Authorities that PMC graduates must pass AMEC exams
first. USA- USMLE, Singapore - no more recognition of PMC degree. For working and
higher specialist training in Ireland , only 1-2 students accepted per year ,and only if they are very
outstanding.
It is very sad that Penang Medical College Graduates cannot even
appear for the qualifying exam in Singapore for medical graduates from unrecognised Universities
To graduate from PMC private student spends about 700k, scholarship student has 10 year bond
or pay 600k penalty. but degree recognition, no different from , local medical colleges
eg AMIST- 300k, Allianz-350k, Melaka Mannipal- 400k, IMU local course 350k,
and now UNITAR- 250k MAHSA College 250k etc etc. Penang and Malaysia needs a good
ethical and reasonably priced medical college.
These facts can be investigated and youwill find that they will se at least 95% accurate
All in all Malaysians have been conned, and are allowing themselves
to be conned . Penang General Hospital can be a very good teaching hospital if properly
organised with PMC Lecturers helping in service and senior hospital staff doing some teaching.
Management is sadly bad and manage the college for their own benefit
i) CEO threatened students who did not attend motivational lecture by his friend Eddie Jordan. Just guess who paid the lecturers expenses
ii) CEO is forcing a change of place of library, canteen , students common room to a rented building 1 km away from lecture and tutorial rooms. Students disagree and petitioned that the change will be incovinient as they cannot use library in between lectures and tutorials but CEO dosent care. he says space is needed, BUT space is wasted on a foreign consulate, and on a research centre
which has nothing to do with students.
iii) CEO does not care about college and students but spends time and college money on his friends Irish Parties, Irish games and puts expenses of his Irish friends and purchases equipment for use by his Irish friends on PMC expenses
If there is an investigation much moore wrongful activities will be found.
. Please dont allow PMC to be sold to the IRISH or any
other company who may latter sell to Irish. Malaysians must keep control of PMC
to keep medical college honest, transparent , affordable, so that students can graduate not feeling angry,
not feel cheated and not having to have plenty of loans to pay off. If students have alot of loans to pay
and feel they have been cheated they will be looking to get as much money from the patients, and the patients
and society will suffer
Please try to keep control of PMC with its teaching hospital in Penang . Good management are to be
a nonprofit organisation and are in the best position to control and show a good example of a well
run , transparent medical college to produce dedicated and honest doctors to servre the rakyat especially
the poor. Please keep control of PMC and the hospital Penang. The Hospital is a very precious asset because
it is very very very costly to run a teaching hospital, They really ,can ,only be run by central governments or
by by foundations supported by very wealthy billionaire benafactors.
PMC course should be made affordable and totally local studies like the rest of the medical schools.
The Irish involvement can be phased out . Malaysians dont need an expensive Irish degree which is
only worth the same recognition wise as a local Malaysian degree, Russian , Indian,Indonesian degree
Those who want a degree from a western country because of plans to emmigrate should not be deceived.
The PMC degree is not an internationally recognised degree.
Please keep costs affordable studies local. Malaysians need only locally recognised degree.I apologise for not stating my real name because of the punishment that could happen to me.
The Irish are tying to take over Penang Medical College .
Please try not to allow this take over. Malaysian management must remain
in control the medical college for the rakyat to educate honest honest and good doctors.
Worse still the Irish National Universiti of Ireland which grants the degree MB ChB is going
to be dissolved in June 2011 because of financial reasons and other reasons not disclosed.
The Irish partners of the Penang Medical College twinning programe are now trying to apply
to various worldwide bodies so that they can manufacture a medical degree qualification which
they can market as an intenationally recognised medical degree.
The current degree awarded to graduating students of the PMC twinning programe is advertised
as internationally recognised but this is false. The degree MB ChB (National Universiti of Ireland)
is only recognised in Malaysia and Ieland( where the geat majority of PMC students cannot get jobs)
The degree is now no longer going to exist after the dissolution of the National Univesiti of Ireland
This disaster is very unfair for all the PMC graduates who studied very hard for their degree,paid a lot
of money and also to the Malaysian Government and people who supported the scholaship students.
Please investigate this fiasco where foreigners ae allowed to use Malaysian facilities to exploit Malaysians
and make excessive profits for themselves by exploiting the "Tabik Orang Putih Tuan" phenomenon
which some conning Malaysians are being accomplice to for their own personal gain to exploit their
fellow men.The Penang Hospital should be made use by The Malaysian Ministry of Health and the
Malaysian Ministry of Education to run a Medical Education facility to train doctors who will be caring
and compassionate, not doctors who want to get back the money they have lost in paying excessive fees
for their medical education.
Anyway 75%-80% of the teaching at the PMC college is done by Kementerian Kesihatan staff who should
concentrate on treating the sick.
JPA and MARA should really invetigate and really interview their students , get the truth and maybe
use the Penang Hospital to conduct their own Medical Universiti. What is the use of paying so moch
to foreigners for a degree which is only recognised in Malaysia and , now worse still is no longer going to exist
because the institution granting the degree is going to be dissolved.
The medical college is operational only because of the teaching hospital in Penang ie
Hospital Pulau Pinang . Without the Hospital there will be no medical college.It really cost
a lot of money to run a medical college entirely. The big silent partner in the college is Hospital
Pulau Pinang and Kementeian Kesihatan Malaysia
The Irish are very very aware of this. They are making a lot of profit from Malaysia. It is said
that PMC is nonprofit. but why are the Irish so willing to take control of the College.
The reason is that they getting a great lot of Money from the fees especially fees for the first 2-3years
course in Dublin
The preclinical course in Dublin costs 30,000 euros per year, per student
For 120 students it costs 120 X 30,000=3,600,000 euros, per batch of students, per year
At any one time there are year1
year2
year 3. (1st 6 months/half year)
So in total there are 2.5 batches of students costing in fees only 3,600,000euros X 2.5 == 9,000,000 euros
So its 9 million euros and converted into ringgit it is 9X5== 45 million ringgit. per year
The capital and /or expenditure required for the preclinical laboratories/ course is minimal
So one can see why the Irish are so eager to be involved in Penang Medical College
It gives them a big profit. for almost no expenditure
If there was no PMC the Irish cannot get this money as they do not have the clinical teaching hospitals
to provide practical clinical teaching and training.
They only want to grab grab grab, providing very poor facilities. There have really
no improvements at PMC, facilities poor, library poor, computer IT facilities poor. Irish want more
and more profit , fees keep increasing, more and more students but PMC staff not around ,
a lot of teaching left to junior hospital staff some even have no postgraduate degree The orang putih
get big fat salaies to come and enjoy their retirement in a warm climate. They connot communicate,
cannot talk to patients , do not know the local manners, and often misbehave especially parties.
The Degree given by National Universiti of Ireland also poor and useless,
Only recognised in Malaysia & Ireland .Many many PMC graduates try to apply to work in UK,
Australia,Singapore but PMC National Universiti of Ireland degree not laku.Graduates told by
General Medical Council in UK , that PMC graduates have to pass PLAB examination first.
Told by Australian Medical licensing Authorities that PMC graduates must pass AMEC exams
first. USA- USMLE, Singapore - no more recognition of PMC degree. For working and
higher specialist training in Ireland , only 1-2 students accepted per year ,and only if they are very
outstanding.
It is very sad that Penang Medical College Graduates cannot even
appear for the qualifying exam in Singapore for medical graduates from unrecognised Universities
To graduate from PMC private student spends about 700k, scholarship student has 10 year bond
or pay 600k penalty. but degree recognition, no different from , local medical colleges
eg AMIST- 300k, Allianz-350k, Melaka Mannipal- 400k, IMU local course 350k,
and now UNITAR- 250k MAHSA College 250k etc etc. Penang and Malaysia needs a good
ethical and reasonably priced medical college.
These facts can be investigated and youwill find that they will se at least 95% accurate
All in all Malaysians have been conned, and are allowing themselves
to be conned . Penang General Hospital can be a very good teaching hospital if properly
organised with PMC Lecturers helping in service and senior hospital staff doing some teaching.
Management is sadly bad and manage the college for their own benefit
i) CEO threatened students who did not attend motivational lecture by his friend Eddie Jordan. Just guess who paid the lecturers expenses
ii) CEO is forcing a change of place of library, canteen , students common room to a rented building 1 km away from lecture and tutorial rooms. Students disagree and petitioned that the change will be incovinient as they cannot use library in between lectures and tutorials but CEO dosent care. he says space is needed, BUT space is wasted on a foreign consulate, and on a research centre
which has nothing to do with students.
iii) CEO does not care about college and students but spends time and college money on his friends Irish Parties, Irish games and puts expenses of his Irish friends and purchases equipment for use by his Irish friends on PMC expenses
If there is an investigation much moore wrongful activities will be found.
. Please dont allow PMC to be sold to the IRISH or any
other company who may latter sell to Irish. Malaysians must keep control of PMC
to keep medical college honest, transparent , affordable, so that students can graduate not feeling angry,
not feel cheated and not having to have plenty of loans to pay off. If students have alot of loans to pay
and feel they have been cheated they will be looking to get as much money from the patients, and the patients
and society will suffer
Please try to keep control of PMC with its teaching hospital in Penang . Good management are to be
a nonprofit organisation and are in the best position to control and show a good example of a well
run , transparent medical college to produce dedicated and honest doctors to servre the rakyat especially
the poor. Please keep control of PMC and the hospital Penang. The Hospital is a very precious asset because
it is very very very costly to run a teaching hospital, They really ,can ,only be run by central governments or
by by foundations supported by very wealthy billionaire benafactors.
PMC course should be made affordable and totally local studies like the rest of the medical schools.
The Irish involvement can be phased out . Malaysians dont need an expensive Irish degree which is
only worth the same recognition wise as a local Malaysian degree, Russian , Indian,Indonesian degree
Those who want a degree from a western country because of plans to emmigrate should not be deceived.
The PMC degree is not an internationally recognised degree.
Please keep costs affordable studies local. Malaysians need only locally recognised degree.I apologise for not stating my real name because of the punishment that could happen to me.
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